worstvikingever: (well that's majorly unfortunate)
[personal profile] worstvikingever
[So when he starts the call he sounds kind of astonished.]

Guys, I think I really am a communist.

No really. After hearing what it means, it... sounds a lot like the way things work back home. I mean, we kind of sort of have a system where you do something for someone and they repay you in kind, but we really don't have any currency or anything, and everyone just does stuff to help each other out.

It... worked really well. I don't see what the big deal is. Why is it supposedly such a evil thing or whatever? I mean if it works, it works, right?

Date: 2011-07-18 03:51 am (UTC)
vytis: (hopeless and taken)
From: [personal profile] vytis
It does not work.

What everyone in town is being made to believe, it doesn't work.

oh Hiccup you don't know what you just asked...

Date: 2011-07-18 03:56 am (UTC)
vytis: (hopeless and taken)
From: [personal profile] vytis
That is the problem. Yes, within a village a system like that may work. What they're talking about here, though, is the Commuinsm of the Soviet Union.

And it didn't work.

Date: 2011-07-18 04:12 am (UTC)
vytis: (the sound of a fight)
From: [personal profile] vytis
[If he wasn't truthed into talking, he'd deflect. But he is truthed into talking, so sit tight, Hiccup.]

The Soviet Union was comprised of several republics. Most did not want to be there. I'm Lithuania--at the time, I was the Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic, unwillingly part of the Soviet Union. On a large scale, Communism is--to put it mildly, because I know you're thinking idealistically by the way you describe it--hopelessly idealistic. People simply work better, from what I have experienced, when they are able to earn rewards based on effort. If a great amount of effort and a small amount earn the same reward, why put in a lot of effort?

The solution in the Soviet Union was that nothing was actually equal, and punishment for failing, for rebellion against something we did not want, for doing anything contrary to what Russia wanted, was severe.

You don't want to be what Mayfield considers a Communist.

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Date: 2011-07-18 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dutying.livejournal.com
I can see why they would make such a big deal out of it since this place is based on America in the 1950s.. They didn't really like communists back then.

Date: 2011-07-18 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dutying.livejournal.com
Oh, you've never heard of the Cold War before? If you know about that, it explains a lot about the situation, honestly.

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Date: 2011-07-18 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commie-island.livejournal.com
It's not evil. We've been using it over at my house for years now.

It's just that America hates it and that makes it evil.

Date: 2011-07-18 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commie-island.livejournal.com
My land I guess? I'm a nation.

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Date: 2011-07-18 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sexy-beams.livejournal.com
I've got nooo clue why it's apparently evil, and I'm kind of an expert on that subject. I'm preeetty sure sharing isn't 'evil'.

Date: 2011-07-18 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sexy-beams.livejournal.com
Welp, I don't have one to give you, but it sounds like this is the exact opposite of how demon society works and humans are aaalways going on about how we're evil.

It's just super weird they think the total opposite of what we do is evil. Hypocrites.

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Date: 2011-07-19 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grand-theft-moe.livejournal.com
Every ideology has its fanatics. There are those within communism who think it alright to suppress dissenting opinion. But the system you describe is still a good one.

Date: 2011-07-19 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grand-theft-moe.livejournal.com
No. It is what is called in debate a "straw man". Basically you attempt to win by arguing against a view that your opponent doesn't actually hold.

Date: 2011-07-19 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ominousjoy.livejournal.com
Y' might b' confused. Social'sm's the same.

Date: 2011-07-19 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ominousjoy.livejournal.com
C'n make it simple fer y', if y' want.

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