worstvikingever: (well that's majorly unfortunate)
Hiccup ([personal profile] worstvikingever) wrote2011-07-17 10:05 pm

018 - Phone, still stage four... or is he?

[So when he starts the call he sounds kind of astonished.]

Guys, I think I really am a communist.

No really. After hearing what it means, it... sounds a lot like the way things work back home. I mean, we kind of sort of have a system where you do something for someone and they repay you in kind, but we really don't have any currency or anything, and everyone just does stuff to help each other out.

It... worked really well. I don't see what the big deal is. Why is it supposedly such a evil thing or whatever? I mean if it works, it works, right?
vytis: (hopeless and taken)

oh Hiccup you don't know what you just asked...

[personal profile] vytis 2011-07-18 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
That is the problem. Yes, within a village a system like that may work. What they're talking about here, though, is the Commuinsm of the Soviet Union.

And it didn't work.
vytis: (the sound of a fight)

[personal profile] vytis 2011-07-18 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
[If he wasn't truthed into talking, he'd deflect. But he is truthed into talking, so sit tight, Hiccup.]

The Soviet Union was comprised of several republics. Most did not want to be there. I'm Lithuania--at the time, I was the Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic, unwillingly part of the Soviet Union. On a large scale, Communism is--to put it mildly, because I know you're thinking idealistically by the way you describe it--hopelessly idealistic. People simply work better, from what I have experienced, when they are able to earn rewards based on effort. If a great amount of effort and a small amount earn the same reward, why put in a lot of effort?

The solution in the Soviet Union was that nothing was actually equal, and punishment for failing, for rebellion against something we did not want, for doing anything contrary to what Russia wanted, was severe.

You don't want to be what Mayfield considers a Communist.
vytis: (in defense of our dreams)

[personal profile] vytis 2011-07-18 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
It's fine, it's over now--well, this place is a bit of an unwelcome nostalgia trip, but regardless. Still, sharing of that sort really only works on a small-scale. I'm sure your village will continue to do fine sharing. Small communities can do that sort of thing. I wouldn't call it Communism--but of course I'm incredibly biased against it.
vytis: (Default)

[personal profile] vytis 2011-07-18 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Eh? Well, what do you mean? It's like asking a human what it's like being a human, I think. It's--well, I live a long time?
vytis: (I don't know what hurt you)

[personal profile] vytis 2011-07-18 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I suppose... I'm about two-thousand years old. I started out as a tribe and eventually became a country. I've always been connected to my people, so what they think, collectively, is what I think.
vytis: (I don't know what hurt you)

[personal profile] vytis 2011-07-18 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
That's how it used to be--or, I remember being mostly confined to a small group of villages, anyway. There aren't any dragons in my world, though.
vytis: (I don't know what hurt you)

[personal profile] vytis 2011-07-18 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
What's it like, living alongside dragons?
vytis: (I don't know what hurt you)

[personal profile] vytis 2011-07-19 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Things seem to be working out in your world.